This time I responded to this.
Please keep in mind that the first message is at the bottom and the most recent at the top.
The reason he called me a whore? Because I wrote about driving a Lexus.
Uh, okay. Kinda makes you a loser, but whatever… right?
Unfortunately I screwed up and called his wife a whore. Mrs. Loren Feldman, you are definitely not a whore, you do not do rimjobs for a living. Mea Culpa, I was pissed, oops sorry.
I never expected to see this though.
So yes, I made a terrible mistake, and it’s really important to me that everyone see exactly what and who Loren Feldman and 1938 media is.
He’s the guy who made my Mom cry and my kids, apparently should be afraid.
What would you do with this?
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Let it drift to the bottom of the digital sea and be covered over in the constant muck the internet generates. You said your mea culpa and sorry, they’ll all be on to something new tomorrow. You oughta see the flame war I got in with Joe Jervis back in 05…
Jessica, leave him alone. He threw out far more disparaging and threatening remarks than you ever said in print. I would take him off every list I have, and block him from yours. Good Luck!
Cyndy
Ahh, bullies. They take the “social” out of “social media.”
I do my best to ignore trash.
And another thing Jessica: I don’t know exactly what you said to him. But, from what I can see, he made threats to you and your family, and if I’m correct, I believe that’s called assault with threats. I think it carries some weight! Check with your lawyer. Good luck! Keep us posted.
Well, he’s got a chicks name for starters. I’d have a big dick contest every chance I had as well.
or send a twitter message out there warning your followers that he is dangerous!
I think I’d call the cops. But maybe I’m paranoid.
Am I correct in that if enough users block someone, they get kicked off Twitter? If so, spread the word and let the blockings commence. That could be something I dreamed up during one of my “if the internet ran like I want it to” moments, though.
holy crap.
you need to get a lawyer, maybe?
jeez.
that’s pretty vicious.
he sounds like an asshole.
he’s probably short and has a napoleon complex anyway.
hopefully, this will blow over.
but it’s one thing to make stupid, idle threats to you over twitter or wherever. but to get your kids involved…
what a asshole!!
Hmmmm… While I don’t have a dog in this fight I do think that you’re being a little disengenuous about when or how this started…
“@lalawag once again @1938media is manstrating I saw him at conference & didn’t say hello, wanna know why? people HATE him. 6:47 PM Jun 18th from web in reply to lalawag”
http://twitter.com/JessicaGottlieb/status/2225502560
To which Mr Feldman responded..
“@JessicaGottlieb So desperate for attention huh? . You didnt say hello because I would have called you the dumb bitch you are to your face.
Jun 18, 2009 07:42 PM GMT”
I would suggest that if you had addressed any of the points Mr. Feldman made about the total lack of integrity of the 140 conference instead of stooping to representations about his character that this may have been avoided.
You were fully aware that your comment with @1938media in it would reach him and I have no doubt you intended it to be so. You certainly intended it to have some polarising effect on your immediate followers with a direct link to him. This is an example of trolling.
You provoked a response from Mr. Feldman which you, having knowledge of Mr Feldman’s attitude to such trollish behaviour and being a reasonably intelligent woman, must have known would be forthcoming.
Mr Feldman decided to point out your lack of integrity for an essentially paid for post regarding a Lexus in his usual vociferous style.
You then rather unwisely decided to insult his wife.
The rest as the say is history…
Your attempts, even while allegedly apologizing, to worm your way out of your own responsibilty for the situation you find yourself in with Mr. Feldman is quite distasteful.
It is with some sadness that I must say this…
When one sews the wind, one must reap the whirlwind
Translation: You started it, stop lying, apologise properly.
I do understand that you feel you have to save face in front of your friends and fight the mean man, but moderating comments that don’t agree with your viewpoint is hardly indicative of openeness or an ability to debate the issues at hand.
I think you’ll find that there is a rather large group of people who agree with Loren about this.
The fact that you brought third parties into the fight and have then deliberately misrepresented the facts, I think, is what has copperfastened their support.
It begs the question. Was he right to question your integrity in the first place?
While I don’t know you and can only speak to this incident. But all evidence I’ve seen to date says yes he was.
I do hope for your sake that this is an isolated thing
To be fair, the reason he called you a whore was because your post on driving a Lexus was obviously a paid post. In essence, you whorred out your blog. That’s a factual statement.
And, you did a bit more than call his wife a whore (why you felt the need to attack his wife I have no idea, your issue was with him right?). You stated that she “eats ass.”
And, you’re now claiming that he’s requested that your house be burned. Sorry, but where exactly did that happen?
Jessica, this guy is NUTS. Really I agree with the others, don’t play his game.
He reminds me of someone I was once very close to, very unstable and violate personality.
I caught wind of this guy last year. Didn’t know why he was so popular. I admit I did too at first, but once I caught him in action, whew! Stay clear.
I can’t believe some (very nice) people continue to follow him. WTH.
He invloved you childern,I would suggest you make that douchebag cry.
@Mandi, it’s oke for Jessica to bring Loren’s wife into the conversation but somehow it’s unacceptable for him to mention her children? You have an interesting set of morals.
that should read involved not inloved. Note to myself should use spell check when I write after 2 glasses of wine.
Certainly not taking sides, but if I did it would be Loren’s. Don’t pull out this “made my mom cry” crap. Own up. You did fuck up. He’s going to torture you. It happens. Move on. :)
Children are off limits. Adults can fend for themselves.
Jessica,
Can’t you just chalk it up to Aunt Flo, and apologize very sincerely for your role in it?
I don’t think disengagement is realistic, and I don’t think legal action is warranted. Isn’t some of Web 2.0 based on person-to-person directness and transparency? As a professional Twit(terererer), your brand lives and dies by these rules.
Just my 2c as someone who has no stake in the game.
Best,
Supa
And we can either admit our mistakes and move on, or choose to be jerks on the pretense that somoeone else made us act that way.
Loren (not being an online person who gives a shit about all the “status” stuff, I unfortunately don’t know or care who he is) had replied to the ass eating comment with “hell yes she does, mine!” perhaps all the rest of it wouldn’t have been necessary.
I meant “IF Loren had replied…”
Mrs Pop, yeah I suppose if Loren didn’t care that Jessica needlessly brought his wife into the discussion this “wouldn’t have been necessary” but then again, if Jessica had admitted that she whores out her blog this wouldn’t have been an issue either.
I disclose.
I was given a car to review for 48 hours, if that is whoring then there will never be another car review. Ever.
Yes, I do paid posts, yes, I disclose those. The Lexus review was not paid for, I just got lucky.
Jessica, we all make mistakes. And we regret them for days, weeks, even years. The difference here, though, is that he became vicious to a point that I consider extremely inappropriate. If what certain people on this thread point out is true – if you really did start this long before the post you call the “first” – then maybe you did deserve the comment he sent out. Maybe you two are just childish adults playing a stupid game. But let it be known that that doesn’t mean it’s okay for him to say such horrible things about your children. That is just plain wrong. It shows that, out of the two of you, he is the most childish and repugnant.
I really do hope you two can resolve your differences, because the type of blows that are being thrown here (particularly from his camp) are disgusting. Be the bigger person, Jessica, and apologize directly. For the sake of your children and their well-being.
This is why the immediacy of Twitter is sometimes not such a good thing. Apologize again and then let it go. (But keep the info you have on him just in case. Those threats were beyond just immature.)
+1 on what Anton and Skitzzo said.
Oh motherfuck, I thought I had come here to read Jessica’s blog, I didn’t realize I was standing in the line to give Loren a nice ass kissing (or licking, I guess) for remaining true to his reputation as an infantile, attention-seeking bully.
He was the first one who threw around unnecessary slander. Just because you agree with the premise behind it does not mean that he is free of guilt, and I wish people would stop indulging his asinine and childish antics. Ok, a lot of people don’t like sponsored posts. I would say nine times out of ten they are just jealous, because no one strapped them to a chair and forced them to read the blog that they are criticizing to begin with. Even so, it does not give you right to call ANY person a whore. Jessica, in returning the favor, was also in the wrong. But she has already stated so in her entry.
Meanwhile, Loren is *threatening* her whole family, because she dared to stand up to him after he attacked her character publicly without any real provocation. Quite frankly, I think this guy is about two YouTube videos away from a mass killing spree and should be seeking help anyway, and a call to the authorities might not be entirely unwarranted. This is the internet, children. Name calling is not encouraged, but it happens nonetheless. Taking a hop skip and jump from name calling to leaving ominous twitter messages about burning someone’s life to the ground? That’s not funny, it’s not a game, and it’s indefensible.
The fact that there are members of his entourage willing to come and try justify his reaction… well, it’s easy to be a member of a pack, and it’s easy to point and laugh when it’s not your family in question.
Jessica
I have never meet you but am a friend of Michelle and Loren’s
1. This begun because you lied,”saw him at the conference, People hate him” you couldn’t have seen him as he is here in Ireland with us all week, in fact I have just come from having breakfast with him and his wife.
2. Its obvious the Lexus post is a paid for one, I have been around for a long time and paid for posts are pretty easy to spot
3. As I mentioned I have just come from breakfast with The Feldmans and let me tell you this you have really upset someone I deeply care about, Michelle Feldman is one of the sweetest people I have met and I find you comments bizarre to say the least.
Your language is atrocious on that tweet and your behaviour is appalling plus your half an apology is contemptible.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Jessica, the Lexus post was paid for in one way or the other. You may not have received cash for the post, but would they have allowed you to borrow the car if you weren’t going to post about it? I don’t think so.
Pat,
To my eyes neither party comes out of this looking very good, but to bring a balance to your post (which for the most part I think was spot on) would you care to comment on Loren’s language and behaviour in his responses – was child prostitution really a valid way of responding to her tweet? Jessica set a seriously low bar with her attack on Michelle but did Loren really need to outdo her with an attack against children? It would have been really easy to take his side in this ‘thing’ before he did that, but now he has probably hurt himself as much as he has hurt Jessica Gottlieb.
If wives are off limits, then kids should be doubly so.
Aja-
Welcome to the no-bullshit zone.
Jessica, just remember: there is no such thing as bad publicity.
This thing never should have escalated, you both should have seen where this was going from the start.
Makes me wonder if Vince McMahon is behind the current dust up ;-)
From what I gather Jessica saw him months ago at a conference not recently, Pat Phelan, and chose not to speak to him because “everyobody hates” him. Maybe everybody doesn’t hate him, but personally I feel this man is a racist with no redeeming qualities and bad business practices, just ask Verizon. I wouldn’t have spoken with him, either. (I’m pretty sure I’m not the only who feels this way) Whatever. She writes a post, paid or not paid, why does he even care? And he calls her a whore, so she calls his wife a whore and so on and so on. He’s a bully with a bad reputation, end of story. Shouldn’t he be putiing together another racist video of some sort anyway, and not bothering with the mommy bloggers?
Certainly, two wrongs don’t make a right, but Jessica, this whole thing would have gone away for you if you had just apologized. You were wrong, not just once, but twice, and then a third time by your non-apology on this blog. The Lexus issue has nothing to do with any of this – you for no reason called him out on Twitter, he came back at you understandably, then you attacked his wife and he took the gloves off. How did you not see that coming?
I don’t even have a stake in this at all and it angers me to see people jump in on your side. Sure, he is reacting strongly but you poked the bear three times – a bear that has been known to bite before, and neither you nor anyone else should be surprised by his response. Anyone who takes a swing at Mike Tyson should be prepared to have their ear bitten off.
You need to swallow your pride and make a real apology. This one is on you.
Aaron – Oh I think there’s plenty of bullshit. I think the whole thing reeks of bullshit. And in the middle of said bullshit, there is this: I don’t care who you are, how many names someone called you or your lovely wife, or how many fans you have.. it is not ok to threaten someone’s family. Ever.
I fail to see why this is such a difficult concept.
So, after simmering a while I “researched” Loren Feldman and found the following to be true:
He is a self-loathing Jew, a racist who employs the “n-word” to get laughs, a “comic” who employs toilet humor(by wearing diapers on video) and according to the vast majority of the web-public is at best a jerk and at worse, to quote Adrianna Huffington “offensive and unfunny”.(I really hate to quote that woman but she is spot on – he is both unfunny and offensive.)
So, after quieting the simmer some more I now feel only pathos for that little man who was able to do a full frontal attack on a woman and her small children. What a guy! What a pathetic fellow he must be. What a pathetic little life he must lead. What a sparsity of social relationships he must suffer.
So, with all simmering gone,dear Jessica, go easy on this large-ego little man. He is neither dangerous nor forceful. In fact, he is not worth any more type – he is not all there.
Pater – exactly my point. Why would you taunt this man in the first place? That’s the real issue.
I’d report him to the police and then block him from everything you have. What a nasty jerk.
Aw hell.
‘Tis the day two strong willed twitterers smacked heads.
Yeah, so calling his wife out was bad, but you apologized and he went too far.
Thankfully everyone will forget about it in a month if they haven’t already.
Yeah, I would definitely call the cops to have it looked into. Especially when it’s a matter of your kids and family…
He truly is pathetic. A middle-aged, balding man who spends his whole day on Twitter goading people… for what? He’s a total hypocrite, too. As soon as anybody turns the tables on Loren Feldman he flips out because HOWDARETHEYDON’TTHEYFEARPUPPETVIDEOS?!?!?! It’s unfortunate that people like him exist, let alone that people like him are allowed to say such things. I have absolutely no idea who you are but I can’t imagine you deserved this. Opinions are one thing. Being an asshole is another.
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